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 Post subject: MlTools forbiden or not?
PostPosted: 15 Nov 2016, 18:14 
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I see valkyrja, archie_rs, GrizzlyElf and DainiusTubys in my area use this (MlTools) and administration dont punish them, so we can all use that? Or they have approval from administration?


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PostPosted: 16 Nov 2016, 08:55 
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what are MlTools? and admin lets the large players get away with many things that are unfair. the usual response if reported is they can not prove they are cheating


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PostPosted: 16 Nov 2016, 10:54 
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Yes, something like a cheat..


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PostPosted: 16 Nov 2016, 12:14 
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according to google it is a bot that plays for you so definitely not allowed but I would not hold my breath waiting for admin to deal with those using it :(


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PostPosted: 16 Nov 2016, 17:34 
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as you say, google says it is a bot and it looks like it can play for you, launching explorers, attacking ruins when the explorers find them, etc

question: how can you tell that someone is using it ?


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PostPosted: 16 Nov 2016, 17:58 
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I am play near this 4 players, and I can see when they killing ruins.. They for every ruin have a calculation.. Do you think a human would calculate how many carriers sent to ruin?
They sent 9500, 11500, 10750, 8500.. It depends on the amount of resources in ruins, MlTools calculate this.. The killing ruins 24/7, explore the terrain 24/7 (WITHOUT PREMIUM!!!), who play this game 24h every day, adn sent MANUALLY explorers???


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PostPosted: 17 Nov 2016, 06:33 
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good point
and I bet it's even more useful when someone is multiboxing
I was wondering how someone could play half a dozen accounts


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PostPosted: 18 Nov 2016, 11:50 
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most of the multi boxers do not use their extra accounts like their main one, is how those of us who are active and observant know there is something not right. the extra accounts are used to increase the amount of explorers missions they can send for finding stuff or for transferring flags between accounts. maybe training army to be killed for experience points. I have one in my area that before the last server merge when there were empty pits to be found was always used to hold pits. these pits were kept closed and never developed until a certain active suzerain in the same area took them over.


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PostPosted: 18 Nov 2016, 12:37 
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MlTools or any other additional programmes are forbidden in the game.


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PostPosted: 18 Nov 2016, 23:10 
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On the US server one player was deleted for using a bot. So I do know they will delete you, but I guess it depends on how they caught/prove it.


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PostPosted: 22 Nov 2016, 06:21 
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I don't know of any player who calculates for every ruin before sending an attack. Even if they do, it would be so expensive for them to purchase calculations.

The regular (human) players have a fixed combination for ruins of different levels. I have a set combination for R5 and R6 (doesn't matter what hero is going or artifacts - I stick to my combination). Sometimes I don't even bother to spy the ruin, only vision.

There will be someone who will reply saying the player is smart and is sending units as per the need and saving gold, good strategy etc...we all know who they are...

I sat on these screen shots for months, before sharing them. We all need to share such things if we want any action taken.


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PostPosted: 22 Nov 2016, 07:58 
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actually some of us (least I do not think I'm alone) calculate each attack. I use a free calculator so costs me nothing but time :D

not carriers, I send 10000 to every ruin, but my other troops I round to the nearest 1000 and if I'm feeling especially paranoid I will calculate my healers down to the 100's since they take so long to train and I want to minimize the amount I will lose if I get caught in that da*n minute you can not get into the sanctuary. I am only a mid level suzerain though.

if I were to buy the 4 hours attacking ruins of all levels, highly unlikely given its 300BG price tag, I would certainly not be wasting my time calculating though. I would have figured out what I would likely need for each ruin level beforehand and then just zipped around sending attacks. and I certainly do not believe that a suzerain the size of valkyrja is spending time manually calculating ruins, especially low level ones


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PostPosted: 22 Nov 2016, 14:15 
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So this makes it the third post of mine in the forum, that the admin has deleted...I had also put a disclaimer that using BOTs or any other tools is illegal and I do not suggest / recommend using them...

Not sure how deleting posts in the forum helps in building trust...What is more disturbing is that the post was deleted in a section which says free of moderation...

Uploading the pictures again...

This player was arrogant enough to let me know I will never get ahead of him because he uses a BOT...


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PostPosted: 23 Nov 2016, 14:13 
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Does anyone have a link showing this tool is not allowed ?

I hadn't heard of it until it was mentioned here. Explains a lot.
Now I know how players can hold an entire 30 person clan together with only a couple active players.


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PostPosted: 24 Nov 2016, 00:00 
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End User License Agreement: http://mlgame.co.uk/eula

5. The User is prohibited from creation and use of bots in the game (in-game characters controlled by software), other programs, any technical and / or other means to emulate User's actions in the game.

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plus it says right on the page where you can sign up to lease this tool that it is not allowed and you may get banned

http://prnt.sc/db2qnn


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PostPosted: 24 Nov 2016, 14:25 
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So basically its a rule they made, but cannot enforce.
Same as multiboxing

Considering how much of your life this game eats away at I'm not surprised players go to this length.
Admin has given no fair alternatives for players with real lives. Really only three options: quit, resurrection, or cheat.


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PostPosted: 29 Nov 2016, 10:20 
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KygerLitor wrote:
End User License Agreement: http://mlgame.co.uk/eula

5. The User is prohibited from creation and use of bots in the game (in-game characters controlled by software), other programs, any technical and / or other means to emulate User's actions in the game.

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plus it says right on the page where you can sign up to lease this tool that it is not allowed and you may get banned

http://prnt.sc/db2qnn


also, on the rules page in the wiki
http://mlgame.co.uk/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Rules
4) conspiracy of a group of people aimed at obtaining in-game advantages that contradict the Rules, as well as use of robot programs of third-party developers in the Game,


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